what this font, it;s like placard MT condenced but would have to be placard MT. Can't find such a font, so what font is this using?

There are a few fonts looking like that with a few changes / styles.

I think IMPACT would be a close font. Not sure exactly.

I don't think it looks too much like "Placard MT Condensed"

          


Looks more like "Futura SH Bold" to my eyes.

          

ok what about this one, it's practically cooper font set but the a on this is diff.

I think that is "Cooper Black" - only the 'a' has been customized.

You could probably mimic it by modifying the 'd' like this:

Identifont

http://www.identifont.com/

suppose i'll do it that way

just gotta get hold of the font, i'll modify the i to get the a

Actually, modifying the 'd' would probably easier and look better.

As I've shown in my edited post above.

yeah i got the font now and i already edited it, but i need to finish teh rest of the website customise the forum to hell and back and i'll finish it up