You know how vBulletin has a misery, which makes certain users " miserable", how come IPB doesnt have one. I mean, make certian annoying users have slow loading times, some disturbing music and have 25 % chance of gettig the page wanted, ther 75% would lead to a time out error, page cannot be displayed error, or redirect to the main front page. Of course, this can easily be changed.
I downloaded one from invisionize, and its great ! and funny, comes with annoying ant music.
But ipb should have it preinstalled you know ?

That doesn't really sound like a feature that a professional piece of software should be by default, in my opinion...

This shouldn't be a peice of script pre-installed IMO. Alot of people use IPB because it's proffesianl, they don't want all that lot to happen to banned users .

VBulletin has it.............. :-"

hurry up dude ! ( obliviion ), im waiting for your reply lol, i keep refreshing the page

Funny mod .

atleast some one agrees with me

IPB > vBulletin. :-"

april fools!

never heard of such a modification.

The mod exists and has proven to be more effective then regular ban according to the feedback from the users of that mod...

Two companies, and two different focuses. If one chooses to please only 2% of the market, then it's their choice, but it's bloating the software by adding feature that every single person wants. Most people will just re-register and avoid the shun, which really doesn't represent a more mature software base, and that's where IPS excels IMO.

I agree it may be a good feature, but hardly something you want to entice businesses with.

here is is : http://mods.invisionize.com/db/index.php/f/4300
share the joy !
also, this is the music preview of what it comes with ( ant music )
www.illegalmango.de/forums/desperation.mp3

Thats why i install a a mod which allows 1 account per ip

Proxies my friend... they are everywhere.

tooshay.....

Isnt than standard for all users on vB?

(that was only a joke before someone quotes me and spreads it around the internet!!)

i dont get that LOL

Steve heads over to Jelsoft and spread Alex rumours

Even if vBulletin does have this feature, it is pointless. The only way that it could function, aside from cache, is by IP (I think, no quoting. ). Most people have IPs that change every time they connect to the internet, people can also mirror their IPs.

Yes. Also, why annoy people? Thier Banned, so thier Banned. Leave it at that.



Yes, but we should concentrate on adding Features that make IPB Better, not Worse than vB.



If IPS Banned me, and i Experianced Extremly slow Load times, i would think the company had a slow Forum, and poor Servers. This would only give a Bad Impression.


Once people are Banned, leave it at that. Either they can Evade your ban, or they can't.

Members are banned so that they [hopefully] go away and leave the community at peace. Having a misery system only promotes such banned members' urge to retalliate by creating more accounts or just generally wreaking havoc on the community in any way they can.

And, like a lot of community administrators, I try to keep the place as professional and friendly as possible. When an annoying member becomes too much for a mere warning or two, I ban everything about them. If they keep coming back by spoofing their IP address, I trace their root IP and report them to their ISP.

It might be a nice feature for IPB, but without the music.

This "Ban Misery" seems VERY unprofessional... why can't you just ban the person, period?

bacause they dont learn !

Yes, but at least the person can no longer access the forums.

If you want to make a banee's life miserable, a corporate product shouldn't do this for you... that is a personal matter.

Is this thread a joke?!

If it isn't it certainly makes me very happy that when I was deciding which forum software to buy I chose IPB. If you need to ban someone from your forum, you don't want them coming back - playing them music and making them a special case is just giving them th attention that they crave. Not only that, but I spend a lot of money a month on my server and associated bandwidth, if someone is banned, I don't want them coming back and wasting server resources and bandwidth, I want them gone.

If this is standard on VB, then imo it is the most ridiculous and unprofessional idea I think I've ever heard of! If someone feels they want to add it in as a mod, then that's upto them, but please do not make it standard on IPB as if you do PHPBB may become an option again

Actually vB has somthing simular, period. Basically it allows you to irrirtate someone into leaving (thinking your site is slow) if you are unable to ban them because their ip changes. The music thing.... is stupid. Just imagine it without music, and that's what vB has, along with normal banning. It's just another option you can use if they still woulnt go away after being banned.

I guess annoying members wouldn't be intelligent enough to turn off their speakers or press mute?

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But if te person's account is loading really slow, getting time out errors, and he cannot register a new account under the same IP address, he will think that my server is really slow and is crashing, and hell leave......

Until he reconnects to the internet, and all of your settings no longer work.

no not really, peoples ips dont change every time they reconnect, more like once every 1-2 weeks....

Maybe yours does, but that isn't true. A lot of people are using a dial up connection, a lot of people use AOL, a lot of people refresh their cable modem regularly like they are suppose to. Lastly, a lot of people are smart, some cheesy mod doesn't stop anyone from posting.

My IP is reassigned by DHCP everytime I reboot my router.

The way British Telecom handles DSL over here means I have a dynamic ISP as well.

I don't have a dynamic IP.

I was referring to the modems that BT and the other ISPs provide. The USB modems they send out require a (short) dial up sequence, which means I have a dynamic IP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't use the provided modem, you use an Ethernet Router with built in DSL, meaning the router is constantly connected.

Well this is how comcast works:

The IP changing cycle occurs every four days. If your modem is on during the cycle your IP doesnt change. If it's off during the cycle, then it changes. If you turn off or disconnect your router/computer it doesnt change. So you can imagine how rare it is for a comcast customer to have an IP change unless they keep the modem off while the internet is being used. I dunno about you, but I keep my modem on.

With AOL.... I've heard stories where IP changes every time you refresh the page which doesnt make much sense to me... But their IP changes so much it's not far from the truth . And the thing is AOL clames it's about "user privacy" which ultimately means they dont care what their users do to people's sites, as such Administrators loose the battle between AOL vs Administrators .

If someone get's banned, most of the time they'll try to come back or change their IP. As it has been mentioned people are smart enough today to change their IP address when every they want... So with this "ban misery" thing, minus the music, it atleast slows them down and doesnt make it obvious they have been "banned"

They don't have it standard:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread....ighlight=misery

LOL, looks pretty funny It works on usergroups and not IP's, so the user isn't banned but rather annoyed to the extreme

So, it's a modification, just like the one for Invision Power Board. No need to add that faeces.

Bit of IP envy happening here :-" j/k

My designated IP is infinitely superior to CTerry's IP.

P.S: Is it sad that I know my IP better than my phone number?

That depends... I phone myself far less then I go to my localhost using my ip

I could call myself in my old apartment, here it just returns a busy signal.

Getting back on topic...

Out of all the vBulletin mods I've seen, Ban Misery is probably the most ignorant and disappointing one.

Why?

A forum is not brutal weapon (No, phpBB isn't either) used to kill people. It's just something for people to come in and talk. Ban Misery takes the quality of a weapon and puts it in forum software.

Plus, it is also making a user use IPB for personal matters. If you want to make a banee's life miserable, you'll have to deal with it personally.

If a forum is not a brutal weapon, then why do some people (cough the people you need to ban cough) use it as one? The people you ban are people who are using the forum as a weapon of annoyance, whether it is through spam, threats, hacking, or more! Then why not annoy them?

A banned person is actually someone behind a wall they can't cross, but others can.

Oh, um...

The forum software itself, again, isn't a weapon. If they spam you, just set up that wall. If you need to harass them like they did to you, that's a personal matter, and should be dealt with via email and not via forum.

I agree. I think the whole point of it would be so they don't know they are banned.

I have some very annoying users that I always have to ban and they always find a way back. If I could ban them without them knowing it, they would be less likely to jump right on to a new account. If they still had access but 90% of the time they got "sever too busy" and "page not found" messages then they might just get frustrated and think my site sucks and move on to annoy some other website. At the very least it would take them alot longer to figure out what was actually going on.

I find this to be a GREAT feature and would love to have it.
Since we can override permission masks without changing the actual user group, we could make the individual user so moiserable, they wouldnt have to be nammed, they would leave by themselves without knowing whats going on.
IF someone gets banned, they with any bad luck try tocause as much problems on the board as possible......so yeah.a hidden mask for this feature would be excellent IMHO