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Dima
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DETROIT (Reuters) - Rap superstar Eminem plans to make his last solo performance in Ireland in September, the Detroit Free Press, his hometown newspaper, said on Friday.


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Quillz
Okay. But it'd be better if he would announce his early retirement.
.Kris
Eminem sucks now anyway, he was good back then, but now he is garbage.
Simon
YES!! happy.gif
Ben Childs
QUOTE(Simon @ Jul 16 2005, 06:21 PM) *
YES!! happy.gif

I'm inclined to agree
elj
:w00t:
Ash
Excellent. :-"
Nimdock
Nice, others should follow... :-" :-"
OntarioCookie
laughing.gif I couldn't agree more biggrin.gif
scanman20
His 15 minutes of fame are long gone.
DXL
QUOTE(scanman20 @ Jul 16 2005, 05:01 PM) *
His 15 minutes of fame are long gone.

Eminem is one of the most gifted rappers to have picked up a mic, not to mention an accomplished producer and the force behind 50 Cent's explosive career. To refer to his accomplishments and marketability as "15 minutes of fame" is as idiotic as saying Gwen Stefani or System Of A Down are nearing the end of their 15 minutes.

Considering how few people here enjoy rap, though, I suppose I can expect these sour attitudes.
.Kris
QUOTE(DXL @ Jul 16 2005, 06:58 PM) *
Eminem is one of the most gifted rappers to have picked up a mic, not to mention an accomplished producer and the force behind 50 Cent's explosive career. To refer to his accomplishments and marketability as "15 minutes of fame" is as idiotic as saying Gwen Stefani or System Of A Down are nearing the end of their 15 minutes.

Considering how few people here enjoy rap, though, I suppose I can expect these sour attitudes.
Good way to put it. thumbsup.gif
flesh_magick
Thats sad to hear. I love Eminem and his music sad.gif
Michael Boutros
QUOTE(DXL @ Jul 16 2005, 05:58 PM) *
Eminem is one of the most gifted rappers to have picked up a mic, not to mention an accomplished producer and the force behind 50 Cent's explosive career. To refer to his accomplishments and marketability as "15 minutes of fame" is as idiotic as saying Gwen Stefani or System Of A Down are nearing the end of their 15 minutes.

Considering how few people here enjoy rap, though, I suppose I can expect these sour attitudes.


I agree completely. Eminem is the best thing to ever happen to Rap.
Quillz
QUOTE(DXL @ Jul 16 2005, 05:58 PM) *
Eminem is one of the most gifted rappers to have picked up a mic, not to mention an accomplished producer and the force behind 50 Cent's explosive career. To refer to his accomplishments and marketability as "15 minutes of fame" is as idiotic as saying Gwen Stefani or System Of A Down are nearing the end of their 15 minutes.

Considering how few people here enjoy rap, though, I suppose I can expect these sour attitudes.

Gifted maybe, but his lyrics certainly are tasteless for the most part. It's just my opinion, but I do find many of his songs to be degrading to woman, homosexuals and other minorities. Maybe that's not his intent, but that's just the impression I got, especially after listening to Marshall Mathers LP.
.Kris
QUOTE(Quillz @ Jul 16 2005, 08:20 PM) *
Gifted maybe, but his lyrics certainly are tasteless for the most part. It's just my opinion, but I do find many of his songs to be degrading to woman, homosexuals and other minorities. Maybe that's not his intent, but that's just the impression I got, especially after listening to Marshall Mathers LP.
If you don't like his words, its as simple as turning it off and never listening to him again.
Quillz
QUOTE(.Kris @ Jul 16 2005, 07:26 PM) *
If you don't like his words, its as simple as turning it off and never listening to him again.

I don't listen to his music wink.gif I did up to Marshall Mathers LP. Of course, it's probably bias, since I don't really like rap to begin with, the only exception being the old-school rap from the late 80s and early 90s.
.Kris
QUOTE(Quillz @ Jul 16 2005, 08:34 PM) *
I don't listen to his music wink.gif I did up to Marshall Mathers LP. Of course, it's probably bias, since I don't really like rap to begin with, the only exception being the old-school rap from the late 80s and early 90s.
Totally understandable happy.gif.
princetontiger
Eminem is good. At least he is true to his word, especially when he mentions in his songs to "grab all the #### that you can while you're in the spotlight."

He's definitely talented, and I'm glad he matured. His original songs contained so many more cusswords.
Bryan
He's not retiring. "final bow as solo artist." He'll probably be fully comitted to his band, D12.
DXL
QUOTE(Quillz @ Jul 16 2005, 07:20 PM) *
Gifted maybe, but his lyrics certainly are tasteless for the most part. It's just my opinion, but I do find many of his songs to be degrading to woman, homosexuals and other minorities.


The minority reference alone illustrates that you haven't listened to his music, and have simply pulled the misogynistic and homophobic references from something you've read. There isn't a single verse on any of his albums that are degrading to minorities.

This goes back to what I stated earlier: people unfamiliar with rap and with a general disliking of it make blanket assumptions or go by what other people (often erroneously) state about rap music. Granted Eminem does have negative references in his music to a variety of things, he's not doing saying anything that different from what other rappers have in the last 20 years (rap being around since '75, the first ten years weren't quite as negative).
Sauren
I just ignore it all. thumbsup.gif
kacy
YEY! tongue.gif
//Nathan
Eminem used to be good... I loved the Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers EPs. I'm not much for rap either, but I like the old Dre and Snoop, Cypress Hill, House of Pain, Onyx... I didn't like enough of them to collect their CDs, but I liked a couple songs by each. I liked the idea of rap more than any one application of it. Then Eminem Show came out, and I just wasn't impressed. A few songs were pretty good, a couple were alright, but it wasn't as good as the first two. I mostly ignored Encore, but I just had a listen to it last night and thought the whole thing stunk. Even "Just Lose It", which is catchy on the radio, is starting to "lose it". getlost.gif I think Marshall did all he could with Eminem on the first two albums -- the last two were mostly filler.

There's a lot more to Eminem than released stuff! Just like Evanescence, but not in the same way. Just search for "eminem discography" on filesharing... there's HEAPS of unreleased stuff. Disses, for one. You hear about some of the bickering between Eminem and everyone else (e.g. Chrstina Aguilera, Everlast, and Insane Clown Posse) on the albums, but they dedicate whole songs to one another and they don't get released. So there's a lot of material that you can only find, AFAIK, traded online. I cerrtainly don't want to suggest people download his studio albums, but if you've got those, I say go get the unreleased stuff... or just search for it separately. Look for a track called "Rabbit Run" or "Run Rabbit Run". It's literally 5 minutes of Em freestyling. WICKED SICK biggrin.gif

And I don't take Eminem any more seriously than Marilyn Manson. They're both probably, especially with Manson, VERY different people in real life. They are entertainers which means they get paid to put on a show. Yeah, Eminem's crude, but as far as the homophobia topic, he pretty much smashed that one out, first with Elton John doing "Stan" with him at the Grammys, that whole performance, and second with a line from 8 Mile, something to the effect of "This guy's gay, this guy's just a <insert bigot slur here>". He's not racist... umm... period. He may joke about it, or use black vs. <insert racial slur here> based on the person, like the 8 Mile example, but that's nothing new... my friends and I have been saying that for years about ALL races, including our own. So... I guess it depends on how you look at it...
• Jay •
QUOTE(Quillz @ Jul 16 2005, 10:20 PM) *
Gifted maybe, but his lyrics certainly are tasteless for the most part. It's just my opinion, but I do find many of his songs to be degrading to woman, homosexuals and other minorities. Maybe that's not his intent, but that's just the impression I got, especially after listening to Marshall Mathers LP.

Wow, way to misinterpret what you hear and contort it into what you want it to mean.

If you couldn't tell, he just acts a fool and has fun rapping by using "shock" lyrics to shake up listeners. Do you really think that he has killed (or plans to kill) his ex-wife? After all, he DID rap about it, so that MUST be serious under your line of thinking.

I find the types of songs such as the ones you describe to be more along the lines of comedy (albeit twisted, still funny) in rap form.
phoenixcg
we should start an invision rap thing LOL we could beat eminem shocked.gif how about we call it invision :|
heartcall
I don't care for rap and Eminem's subject matter... but I respect his talents. He has been a force to reckon with for quite some time and that is worth noting.

I bet he will do some show somewhere down the way... it's a given!
GameFox
Why the hell can't Eminem be 'negative' in his music? He has every right.
heartcall
QUOTE(GameFox @ Jul 18 2005, 03:19 PM) *
Why the hell can't Eminem be 'negative' in his music? He has every right.


Yup... of course he has every right, just like I have the right to say I don't care for his subject matter. innocent.gif
Chris T
I can't say I like Eninem's music particularly. Or indeed hip-hop in general. But I respect Eninem. He is talented, just because I don't like his music doesn't mean he isn't good at what he does. As for him being homophobic, racist, mysogynistic and what not, I don't think Elton John would duet with a homophobic man, and I doubt that other rappers like Dr. Dre, 50 Cent or D12 would work with him if they considered him racist.

At the end of the day he's contributed to music. Music isn't just one genre, and genres influence each other too. I like my rock and metal, and it's definitely been influenced over the years by rap. You just have to look at the Red Hot Chilis early stuff, or Rage Against the Machine for the most blatant examples, but often influence is far more subtle than that, and while I'm no authority on the matter I would suspect Rap has been influenced by rock and metal too. Eninem's music may (and probably will) end up influencing the music of rock and metal musicians in the future. Plus not everyone likes the same things, and if people like DXL like the music that is there business. As someone else said, you can always change over when his music comes on. I know I do.
Rikki
Eminem is one of the only rap artists that I actually like, generally I can't stand the style. 8 Mile was also a good film I thought.
Chris T
QUOTE(Rikki @ Jul 18 2005, 10:50 PM) *
Eminem is one of the only rap artists that I actually like, generally I can't stand the style. 8 Mile was also a good film I thought.
I haven't seen it myself, but everyone I know who's seen it (even those who hate Eninem's music) thought it was good. One of the people I know who dislikes Eninem's music said 'It made me look at him totally differently'
heartcall
QUOTE(Rikki @ Jul 18 2005, 03:50 PM) *
Eminem is one of the only rap artists that I actually like, generally I can't stand the style. 8 Mile was also a good film I thought.


Rikki... you surprise me cool.gif
Rikki
QUOTE(heartcall @ Jul 18 2005, 11:36 PM) *
Rikki... you surprise me cool.gif


In what way? Expected me to like rap? Surprised I even like one song? biggrin.gif
Cesar M.
QUOTE(.Kris @ Jul 16 2005, 12:47 AM) *
Eminem sucks now anyway, he was good back then, but now he is garbage.


Yea, though one of the new songs Detroit City, that's an ok one.
Kenny Pollock
Oh and, fyi all- this was a false rumor. He isn't going anywhere.
heartcall
QUOTE(Rikki @ Jul 18 2005, 04:54 PM) *
In what way? Expected me to like rap? Surprised I even like one song? biggrin.gif


I was just hasslin' ya original.gif.
will roberts
Eminem will have lots more in the next few years aswell as guest appearances on Dr Dres new alum Detox.

There will also be another album from Eminem!

Papers are spitting out what they think to be true which causes others to follow suit and before you know it the world 100% knows hes bowing down.

Eminem would be a hypocrite to not do another album after going on at Dr Dre to do his so at least for me, that sais hes gonna be arond for a while.

Eminem is a pure genius and those who doubt him need to simply listen to the tracks properly. if you still dont get it then get the lyrics for a few tracks and read them!! You will understand where he is coming from.
Dima
UPDATE: Eminem says he's NOT retiring.

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P.S. Ken! You're back! How are you these days?
Den-Den
Rap sucks period, so...


He lives right near me. His daughter actually had her birthday party at the Skating Rink I work at. No joke.
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