Jaggi
Sep 20 2006, 06:37 PM
I was thinking that maybe this would be made into a AJAX feature, theres a mod for it but i think having this work without a reload would be a great addition as 99% of my posts is done via the fast replay box. It'd make a nice optional feature

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Sinistra
Sep 20 2006, 06:42 PM
Probibly won't be done till 3.0 they are still tryign to understnad the AJAX coding
elj
Sep 20 2006, 06:42 PM
Personally I don't think it's needed - with the page refresh also shows any posts since you refreshed the page.
Keith J. Kacin
Sep 20 2006, 06:49 PM
QUOTE(Lord Katsuhito @ Sep 20 2006, 02:42 PM)

Probibly won't be done till 3.0 they are still tryign to understnad the AJAX coding
I really don't think that is the reasoning behind not adding it.
Darth Unrivaled
Sep 20 2006, 06:56 PM
Well if you do I hope it will be something you can turn off and on as I hate ajax on the fast reply. One of the many reasons I picked IP.Board over Vbulletin.
bfarber
Sep 20 2006, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(Lord Katsuhito @ Sep 20 2006, 02:42 PM)

Probibly won't be done till 3.0 they are still tryign to understnad the AJAX coding

Trust me, Matt and I understand it.

There's just no point in doing the fast reply like this - it's prone to failure. If someone posts before you it could cause posts not to be returned to the screen. Or if a couple posts are saved and you should be sent to page 2, how is that handled? All posts on the screen wiped out? I'd think that would confuse people.
At the end of the day, there just isn't a valid enough need for AJAX in the quick reply area.
Darth Unrivaled
Sep 20 2006, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(bfarber @ Sep 20 2006, 11:57 AM)


Trust me, Matt and I understand it.

There's just no point in doing the fast reply like this - it's prone to failure. If someone posts before you it could cause posts not to be returned to the screen. Or if a couple posts are saved and you should be sent to page 2, how is that handled? All posts on the screen wiped out? I'd think that would confuse people.
At the end of the day, there just isn't a valid enough need for AJAX in the quick reply area.
Yeah someone feels my pain. The only thing I could see the fast reply to need is maybe small tone down section for some common bbcode and smiles.
Jaggi
Sep 20 2006, 07:02 PM
valid points bfarber and i guess it does cause issues, not sure if the current mod for 2.1 relises and gets round these problems or not.
UBERHOST.NET
Sep 20 2006, 07:03 PM
Darth Unrivaled
Sep 20 2006, 07:06 PM
Ajax is making the web lazy. I could see the need for it back when we all had dial-up but now most have cable/DS or other means of highspeed Internet so unless you going to do some sort of full blow ajax application, all these little ajax things are just there and really don't have much of need other then one own.
Jaggi
Sep 20 2006, 07:10 PM
well i agree but with huge forums with tens of thousands of members it does make a difference, i'm not a fan of ajax everywhere like another forum software we'll leave unamed for now

but key placed ones do have advantages.
Darth Unrivaled
Sep 20 2006, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(Jaggi @ Sep 20 2006, 12:10 PM)

well i agree but with huge forums with tens of thousands of members it does make a difference, i'm not a fan of ajax everywhere like another forum software we'll leave unamed for now

but key placed ones do have advantages.
I agree they do, on small forums with low traffic a fast reply ajax thing may just be one of those cool things to look at but when we talk about big and active boards with 100s of people on at a time, it could really create a problem.
Κeith
Sep 20 2006, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(Darth Unrivaled @ Sep 20 2006, 03:16 PM)

I agree they do, on small forums with low traffic a fast reply ajax thing may just be one of those cool things to look at but when we talk about big and active boards with 100s of people on at a time, it could really create a problem.
Yeah, really. Could you imagine posting here the last two days with five, six, maybe even seven posts all a minute ago, and you're using fast reply to ajax in a reply to the post before the group of new?
Cherrymenthol
Sep 20 2006, 07:59 PM
I don't think we need an ajax fast reply, there's nothing wrong with the current one, to be honest, I prefer it over any other. I see ajax as being used for the more "cool!" factor, and it does look very cool IMO. I expect it's friendly bandwidth wise too.
UBERHOST.NET
Sep 20 2006, 08:16 PM
I don't care about the AJAX or "gee wiz" factor, although I would like some of the formatting controls in the fast reply. That can be done with a mod though, so no biggie.
chrisdrugs
Sep 20 2006, 08:37 PM
Vbulletin can do it, why can't you guys???
UBERHOST.NET
Sep 20 2006, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(chrisdrugs @ Sep 20 2006, 01:37 PM)

Vbulletin can do it, why can't you guys???
IPB can make a professional-looking editor that doesn't look like a toy, why can't
those guys?

Welcome to the board BTW.
chrisdrugs
Sep 20 2006, 08:42 PM
They can't because they focus on what there customers are looking for. If you think it looks like a toy, um. :/ No comment.
Now answer my QUESTION. Thanks.
Κeith
Sep 20 2006, 08:46 PM
I don't think anyone is going to answer your question with your current attitude.
UBERHOST.NET
Sep 20 2006, 08:50 PM
QUOTE(MetalFrog @ Sep 20 2006, 01:46 PM)

I don't think anyone is going to answer your question with your current attitude.
Yup, clearly a vFanboy in to have a peek at 2.2 and have a go at us. I hope he tries the Quick Edit feature whilst here.
Κeith
Sep 20 2006, 08:52 PM
Or utilizes this super, crazy,
amazing feature!
Aw, logout is different now.
bfarber
Sep 20 2006, 08:54 PM
I say we all just POST via Mr Clean through an RSS REST interface synched through LDAP and any other acronym you can think of. Then it'll be all 2.0ish and dandy.
chrisdrugs
Sep 20 2006, 09:26 PM
Sorry everybody I am just a having money problem at the moment, don't mind me i justa stressed. Sorry. It good software i just hear from friend about vbulletin at factory.
OverDriveAdamJ
Sep 20 2006, 11:36 PM
I would like to see the new RTE as an on/off option in fast reply. I also want to see Fast reply expanded to something like 90% cell width. I never liked that tiny little box. "Quick Edit" should also have optional RTE.
BASHERS33
Sep 21 2006, 03:37 AM
vbulletin's basically does ajax if it is added to the same page, but regular if it is destined for a new page.
gel
Sep 21 2006, 03:43 AM
QUOTE(BASHERS33 @ Sep 21 2006, 11:37 AM)

vbulletin's basically does ajax if it is added to the same page, but regular if it is destined for a new page.
I agree this way is the best.
Quillz
Sep 21 2006, 03:52 AM
QUOTE(gel @ Sep 20 2006, 08:43 PM)

I agree this way is the best.
I also agree. While I'm not saying that we should totally overhaul the Fast Reply box, I don't see how a little AJAX couldn't improve it.
BASHERS33
Sep 21 2006, 04:30 AM
I personally don't see how it helps much though. The way it is now, you mustw ait for it to go to the new page. With ajax, you must wait for the "waiting" type of message to go away. i don't see how it helps much, other than if people think it may look a little better being done with ajax.
Matt
Sep 21 2006, 08:10 AM
No. Ajax fast reply is the most pointless thing in the world. Ever. If our competition wish to throw feature sugar all over their product to make it taste better than it should, it's up to them.
Quillz
Sep 21 2006, 08:35 AM
QUOTE(BASHERS33 @ Sep 20 2006, 09:30 PM)

I personally don't see how it helps much though. The way it is now, you mustw ait for it to go to the new page. With ajax, you must wait for the "waiting" type of message to go away. i don't see how it helps much, other than if people think it may look a little better being done with ajax.
Well, I suppose that makes sense.
athlonkmf
Sep 21 2006, 08:59 AM
QUOTE(Jaggi @ Sep 20 2006, 07:10 PM)

well i agree but with huge forums with tens of thousands of members it does make a difference, i'm not a fan of ajax everywhere like another forum software we'll leave unamed for now

but key placed ones do have advantages.
Really? I don't see my
115796 registered members and 1384 user(s) active in the past 30 minutes have any problems with my Lightning Reply option. They love it actually.
nicoo
Sep 21 2006, 10:56 AM
QUOTE(Lord Katsuhito @ Sep 20 2006, 08:42 PM)

Probibly won't be done till 3.0 they are still tryign to understnad the AJAX coding
This is really a good one
I would nominate it for the "10 best IPS-forum-posts of 2006"
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