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Jaime
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKN0133032120071001

The only thing I can say is that I hope she gets help. With so much going wrong in her life I hope she won't be suicidal. She needs to turn her life around desperately.
MindTooth
She ######ed it. Get over it! There are several artists that beats BS every second.
Jaime
QUOTE(Birger J. Nordølum @ Oct 2 2007, 01:53 AM) *
She ######ed it. Get over it! There are several artists that beats BS every second.

This isn't about her credentials as an artist. I don't think she is particularly a good singer and am not a fan but as a human being I hope she overcomes her struggles in life to become a better person.
Dannyarr
QUOTE(Birger J. Nordølum @ Oct 2 2007, 03:53 AM) *
She ######ed it. Get over it! There are several artists that beats BS every second.


It doesn't matter what kind of artist she is or how good she sings. Having your children taken away from you is probably the worst feeling in the world. I'd never wish it upon anyone. I hope she gets her life sorted, or someone helps her do it.
robbo
QUOTE(.Danny @ Oct 2 2007, 08:00 AM) *
It doesn't matter what kind of artist she is or how good she sings. Having your children taken away from you is probably the worst feeling in the world. I'd never wish it upon anyone. I hope she gets her life sorted, or someone helps her do it.


The fact that she has lost custody of her children is her own fault how many times resently was she seen out nightclubbing during the custody hearings etc, when you become a parent you give up the right to live a party life, in first place are the children and there well being. As for getting her life sorted that is something that she has to do herself only she can deceide enough is enough and start making the changes needed.
Trel
I hope we don't get another chris crocker video <.<
idav
I don't feel the least bit of remorse for her. I think she's about as worthless as a human as you can find anywhere. My only concern is for those children. I hope that somehow they can find a way to grow up normal and strong willed....the antonym of their mother.
MindTooth
QUOTE(.Danny @ Oct 2 2007, 08:00 AM) *
It doesn't matter what kind of artist she is or how good she sings. Having your children taken away from you is probably the worst feeling in the world. I'd never wish it upon anyone. I hope she gets her life sorted, or someone helps her do it.
I hope so too. But like the situation is today, she has some miles to walk before she have done it correctly.
Mark.
QUOTE(z0mgpwnr @ Oct 2 2007, 02:32 PM) *
I don't feel the least bit of remorse for her. I think she's about as worthless as a human as you can find anywhere. My only concern is for those children. I hope that somehow they can find a way to grow up normal and strong willed....the antonym of their mother.



Do you know her personally?
idav
QUOTE(Professor P @ Oct 2 2007, 11:13 AM) *
Do you know her personally?

Lol what do you mean to suggest by that question? "You don't know her you don't know what she's going through!" Cry me a river, she has more resources than most on this planet and her failures as a mother and a human being are her own fault. Enough of that garbage. It's tough love time Brittany. We live in the real world. All your fame and money isn't going to buy you responsibility. She's a wretch of a mother and I hope those kids never have to suffer another day with her. You can't trust the lives of 2 children to someone who has no idea how to run their own.

Unfortunately the kids are with their Dad now. So I'm not sure how much better off they are

If the word justice meant anything in the Judicial System she'd have been sterilized long ago.
Digi
Sources are saying that she turned over the kids almost immediately (so I heard on the morning show on the way to work today) and didn't even keep them until Wed. So it seems that she could care less about the kids in the first place. Honestly, I think she's pulling a Paris and using the bad media to get publicity. Everyone knows she is a flop, but the psycho appeal is what keeps her in headlines. Hell, even the crap single is climbing the Apple downloads and Billboards top 100....
bfarber
QUOTE(Digi @ Oct 2 2007, 12:55 PM) *
Hell, even the crap single is climbing the Apple downloads and Billboards top 100....


Actually, for a "Britney" tune I liked it (at least in terms of "pop" genre music).

I do think it's tough love time, as someone else put it. Between her, Paris and Linsey Lohan, the teenage girls in this country don't have too many positive role models. I think it's time as a society we stopped putting up with it and forced the celebs to act like real people who have punishments that fit the crime.
idav
Here here!
Jaime
QUOTE(z0mgpwnr @ Oct 2 2007, 06:17 PM) *
Here here!

You mean "hear, hear." wink.gif
Κeith
QUOTE(bfarber @ Oct 2 2007, 01:58 PM) *
I do think it's tough love time, as someone else put it. Between her, Paris and Linsey Lohan, the teenage girls in this country don't have too many positive role models. I think it's time as a society we stopped putting up with it and forced the celebs to act like real people who have punishments that fit the crime.

That starts with mothers that know what they're doing, first and foremost. You can't blame every degenerate child on celebrities. We can all name quite a few celebs that get away with crimes (biggest probably being OJ), but we all have people in our lives that do illegal activities without being caught.

It's a big world, and fixing the 'public eye' won't correct everything.

QUOTE(Jaime @ Oct 2 2007, 03:42 PM) *
You mean "hear, hear." wink.gif

That was worth adding to the thread.
The Clash
Personally, I blame a good 75%+ of it on the attention they get. Not just Britney, but all celebrity mental issues such as this.
Chris T
QUOTE(bfarber @ Oct 2 2007, 06:58 PM) *
Actually, for a "Britney" tune I liked it (at least in terms of "pop" genre music).

I do think it's tough love time, as someone else put it. Between her, Paris and Linsey Lohan, the teenage girls in this country don't have too many positive role models. I think it's time as a society we stopped putting up with it and forced the celebs to act like real people who have punishments that fit the crime.

Good luck with that.

You may give them punishments that fit the crime, but I doubt it'll do anything. Britney's lost her kids, Hilton's gone to jail, as has Lohan, do you really think it made one iota of difference to their behaviour?

The honest truth is that being in the media spotlight at that age in our modern age simply put, ######s people up. All the yes men and women, the easy availability of drugs, the constant pressure of having your private life invaded, the way everything about you is analysed for every single inperfection. These are still young women, is it a surprise when they end up a little ######ed up.

Look at the other child stars of the past, Drew Barrymore and Michael Jackson immediately leap to mind as the two craziest. Lohan and Spears started off basically as kids themselves.

I think we really need to stop questioning the celebrities themselves, though of course they are individuals responsible for their own actions, but rather questioning just what it is that this celebrity fixated culture that we've created does to the people through the lens of the camera. That's a more uncomfortable debate, but its one that needs to be had IMO.
bfarber
QUOTE
That starts with mothers that know what they're doing, first and foremost. You can't blame every degenerate child on celebrities. We can all name quite a few celebs that get away with crimes (biggest probably being OJ), but we all have people in our lives that do illegal activities without being caught.


It's true - celebrities aren't the only ones and I wouldn't say that they are. wink.gif Younger people idolize celebrities however, and so they should show our younger generations "the way" appropriately.

QUOTE
You may give them punishments that fit the crime, but I doubt it'll do anything. Britney's lost her kids, Hilton's gone to jail, as has Lohan, do you really think it made one iota of difference to their behaviour?


Not all of them. But I personally won't watch any Lindsey Lohan movies anymore, for example. I loved her as an actor (even if the movies she's traditionally been in are geared toward the teenage audience more so than adult). But if everyone stopped putting up with the nonsense the celebrities show us, by showing them that we don't condone their actions and thus don't support them anymore, I'd bet THAT would make a change. If Britney couldn't sell another album to save her life, because she's shown us how bad a role model she really can be (both for America, and for her own kids), I bet then she'd change just a little. It wouldn't be so "cool" to go out partying all the time.
Jaime
QUOTE(bfarber @ Oct 3 2007, 01:19 PM) *
But if everyone stopped putting up with the nonsense the celebrities show us, by showing them that we don't condone their actions and thus don't support them anymore, I'd bet THAT would make a change. If Britney couldn't sell another album to save her life, because she's shown us how bad a role model she really can be (both for America, and for her own kids), I bet then she'd change just a little. It wouldn't be so "cool" to go out partying all the time.

That is an idealist view as it will never happen. Too many people love reading the drama that involve celebrities. Celeb gossip alone is a billion dollar industry. Drama is what sells - not good behaviour.
idav
QUOTE(CTerry @ Oct 3 2007, 06:28 AM) *
Good luck with that.

You may give them punishments that fit the crime, but I doubt it'll do anything. Britney's lost her kids, Hilton's gone to jail, as has Lohan, do you really think it made one iota of difference to their behaviour?


Spot on. Paris for example...watch this interview, it's plain to see that she her experiences haven't changed her a bit. She didn't learn from them and all of it was a waste of time. All the remorse and public statements she said we probably drafted by a PR person. Look at the way she reacts to David Letterman. He even basically says this is an opportunity for her to set an example and tell all the youth that idolize her or her lifestyle that it isn't a good idea and it can get you in trouble or worse. But she hasn't grown up enough to come to those realizations. I never really paid attention to David Letterman before but he is extremely witty. The questions he asks her and the things he said were all polite enough and joking around but most of it had real meaning to it that I think a mature audience will see. These people are out of control, they wouldn't know reality if it smacked them in the face. Sometimes I wish something apocalyptic would happen that would put them in their place and make them realize I'm just another human.

As a great motivational speaker said (who has a best selling book, someone give me his name please i can't remember) "What's in your hands?" Fame isn't for yourself, if you use it for yourself you end up like these worthless people.
idav
QUOTE(Jaime @ Oct 3 2007, 09:49 AM) *
That is an idealist view as it will never happen. Too many people love reading the drama that involve celebrities. Celeb gossip alone is a billion dollar industry. Drama is what sells - not good behaviour.

What he's basically saying is most of us aren't any better. And I agree.
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