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Stephen
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The SCI FI Channel is calling it quits with Stargate Atlantis -- or at least in its current format -- the network confirmed in a press release today. The spin-off series will conclude in January with the current, fifth season, and will be followed with a 2-hour Atlantis movie.

Despite the cancellation, series creator Brad Wright tells GateWorld that, looking ahead, the Stargate franchise is as strong as it has ever been.

SCI FI will have the exclusive worldwide television premiere of the movie, which MGM will subsequently release on DVD. The movie does not yet have a title.

Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie, executive producers and showrunners on Atlantis for its final two seasons, will pen the film.

"We're excited to tell Atlantis stories on a bigger canvas," series creators Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper said. "The successes of the two original Stargate DTV movies The Ark of Truth and Continuum have shown us the opportunities that the movie format offers. We have plans for both SG-1 and Atlantis to remain vital as we expand the franchise."

"We share in the producers' enthusiasm to move forward in this direction and we look forward to a strong and continued relationship on Stargate Atlantis in this new format," said Thomas Vitale, SCI FI's Senior Vice President Programming & Original Movies.

"Enemy At the Gate" will be the 100th and final episode of the series, and will air in January.

"One hundred episodes is the goal of every writer-producer," Wright told GateWorld exclusively. "To have achieved that with a spin-off series is amazing. And like SG-1, I don't feel as though anything is coming to an end with Atlantis -- it's just evolving. Ark of Truth and Continuum were hugely satisfying creatively for everyone involved precisely because they were movies, and we have no intention of stopping there."


Stargate Atlantis was SCI FI's highest rated premiere ever when it debuted on July 16, 2004.
The success of those two films not only helps the cast, crew, and fans of Atlantis see a light at the end of the cancellation tunnel, but has also begun to redefine what "cancelled" means. In the future, more television series may give way to direct-to-DVD movies, as a way of keeping the adventure going.

"Rob and I have spent several years biting our finger nails over the prospect of renewal, but you've got to respect both MGM and SCI FI for giving us the opportunity to continue both Atlantis and SG-1 in a series of movies," Wright told GateWorld. "This is nothing to complain about -- it's something to look forward to.

"Keep in mind that Stargate Worlds, the huge oneline game is just around the corner, and with the prospect of another Stargate television series also on the horizon, the franchise is really as strong as it has ever been."

Source: http://gateworld.net/news/2008/08/sci_fi_c...isi_cance.shtml

To be honest I kind of expected this, 100 episodes, 5 seasons is typical of US shows. Then the fact that MGM has apparently been keen to kickoff Stargate Universe, and the creators said they wouldn't do it until Atlantis finishes. It was cheesy, a bit corny, not overly original but it was good fun original.gif

But still a surprise, with Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica finishing early next year what original Sci-fi programmes do Sci-Fi have now? Caprica and Sanctuary are the only ones I know of, and I'm not really sure about either of those shows.
Μichael
QUOTE (Stephen @ Aug 21 2008, 04:08 PM) *
But still a surprise, with Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica finishing early next year what original Sci-fi programmes do Sci-Fi have now? Caprica and Sanctuary are the only ones I know of, and I'm not really sure about either of those shows.

Eureka?
Cybertimber2008
Eureka! (you know you wish to click that mysterious link shifty.gif )

Such sad news to hear... but if theres one after it hey, at least "Stargate" theme will continue.
Heck, its SG1 I like the most.
Skreid
It's too bad the seasons of Eureka are so short.
Stephen
laughing.gif that was quicker than I expected

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Proving that you can't keep a good franchise down -- at least not for more than a day or so -- the SCI FI Channel has green-lit production on Stargate Universe, the third live-action television series, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The official press release from MGM and SCI FI is expected later today.

Universe will have a 2-hour premiere in 2009, and land in a regular time slot next summer -- meaning there will not be a production gap between the second and third Stargate television series.

The trade magazine also reported that the show will be set on board a previously unmanned ship called the Destiny, and will involve more space-based action than its predecessors. "Unable to return to Earth, the crew must fend for themselves aboard the ship, which has a preprogrammed mission taking them to the far reaches of the universe," the magazine said.

The producers are reportedly looking to cast a known actor for one of the leading roles, and fresh faces to round out the cast. This would follow the pattern of SG-1, which earned a lot of marketability from leading man Richard Dean Anderson when it premiered in 1997, rather than the largely unknown cast of Atlantis.

The new series will also be aimed at a slightly younger audience, SCI FI president Dave Howe said.

"This is an opportunity to reinvent this franchise and make it relevant to a new generation," he said. "We really don't want to be more of the same. It's going to build clearly off the existing franchise but with a cast that gives it a younger vibe."

"In Universe, we plan to keep those elements that have made the franchise a success, such as adventure and humor, while breaking new ground in the relationships between mostly young and desperate explorers, thrust together and far from home," series co-creators Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper said. "Above all, we believe the Stargate itself remains an enduring icon with infinite potential as a jumping-off point for telling stories."

Wright and Cooper will also executive produce. The two created Stargate Atlantis, which will end its TV run in January (story). An Atlantis movie will also air later in 2009 on SCI FI -- hopefully the first of many.

Source: http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/08/sci_...argate_un.shtml


Not sure what I think of the idea of a show aimed at a younger audience, but I suppose as long as it doesn't turn out to be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37TtMzeV-9I I'll probably watch it. I was kind of hoping for a slightly darker show, but I guess BSG has shown that it just doesn't get the ratings that Sci-Fi want/need.



Also sounds like yet another SG1 movie (excluding the silly recut of Children of the Gods), listening to an interview with Brad Wright and he says ".....with the game coming, with a new series coming, with 2 more movies coming....." and then hints that it could happen "sooner rather than later"
Matt Marshall
Where do you get the idea of another SG1 movie from? Universe and Atlantis = 2.

Would be good though. original.gif
Stephen
Universe isn't a movie, its another TV series
Matt Marshall
Ah sorry, I got confused from reading:

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Universe will have a 2-hour premiere in 2009


Assumed it would be a movie.
Stephen
Not a direct-to-DVD movie, and one would assume that would come under the umbrella of "a new series" wink.gif
Dan.M
QUOTE (Matt Marshall @ Aug 22 2008, 07:12 AM) *
Ah sorry, I got confused from reading:

Assumed it would be a movie.

You should have read the section right next to the part you just quoted

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and land in a regular time slot next summer


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Stargate Universe reminds me about Star Trek Voyager.. hehe
Stephen
People said the same thing before Atlantis; on a (city) ship, cut off from Earth. Certainly sounds like it.
Luke
Noooooooooooooooo!

Although... I expected it. Really, I think Sci Fi really killed it with prolonging air times as much as they did. Oh well... wasn't going to last forever, and hopefully StarGate Universe will be good.

StarTrek Voyager is my second favorite show (StarGate being my first favorite). Big fan of the doc, although his character in SG was kind of cheesy...

We'll see I guess...
Master_Odin
I only really watch Sci-Fi for Doctor Who (and the occasional movie they have though look pretty cheesy tongue.gif)
Michael Merritt
I kind of liked the premise of Atlantis being cut off from Earth. I didn't like it any less after Dedalus became a lifeline, but after that, the whole premise did change. I'm glad that the writers are re-exploring the idea of the crew being completely cut off from Earth.
Jaggi
its the dirty bastards at sci-fi all they want to do is make money which is why they're going with the movie avenue. I still liked the show and think there was lots of a more room for exploration and kinda weird since they announced a new alien would be debutting this season although i think that might have been a one off ep. The sg universe does sound alot like voyager or battlestar etc. I hope its good and going to miss sga but i guess it back to the old formula of the human race being the underdogs fending off everyone else like usual but it was nice to have a series where we kicked ass for once.
Luke
I really felt that SG1 was really cut off a bit too short. I mean, it had to come to an end eventually, but it was really cut off prematurely.

Atlantis... I kind of figured this would happen. I was hoping it didn't because I really felt that the show had a lot of potential... But what really killed the show, in my opinion, was Sci-Fi trying to control ever aspect of the show. And if you've read behind the scenes information, and blog entires from the cast and crew, etc... you'll know what I'm talking about...

As a result, you have cast members leaving, new cast members coming on the scene.. it just changed the dynamic of the show too quickly. Some changes were warranted, but others just had too much of a negative impact. For example killing off Dr. Becket really hurt things. On top of that the story just seemed not as well thought out as SG1 was. Too many loose ends left un-tied. There were a few insignificant ones in SG1, but not nearly as many in Atlantis.

I feel the whole Michael thing was a bad idea. It reminds me more of the Aliens movie. It was a good sub plot at first, and I wouldn't have been upset if they never had revisited that story... But the main plot? They would have been a whole lot better off if they had buried that long ago. The replicator and wraith as different enemies and two points of conflict were great. How they killed off the replicator home world was epic. The teaser with Dr. Weir was even better... They had me on the edge of my seat... What happened to that? Didn't they go strait into the whole Michael thing after that? I'm not sure because a couple episodes after that I started falling asleep. I haven't even seen any episodes from the latest season yet, nor am in any hurry to. They lost it. And I have a feeling that they lost it because of Sci-Fi. And because they know better than the writers, the show isn't showing as favorable results, so they ended up cutting it off.

SG1 lasted as long as it did because:

(1) It kept the same cast, for the most part. The only change in cast, really, was Daniel for one season, which he came back later. Then there was the doc mid-way... But other than that, there really wasn't any major changes to the cast. In Atlantis three major characters were lost or killed. Some of these characters people felt some kind of connection with. Like I felt Dr. Becket was an awesome character. The other guy, who left pretty early, wasn't as bad... But still. A major character of the show.

(2) The story had an "inner weaving" effect where you'd have the main story, and several sub plots that would eventually circle back and have some relevance to the main plot, even if you didn't think it would. Seeing an upcoming episode reference to one of the sub plots makes you think back to a previous episode and remember certain parts of it. It gets you involved. SG1 is a show that you really can't start watching in the middle... you really have to start from the beginning... Just like any good book. I don't believe Atlantis really accomplished that very well. And when you change the cast as much as they did, of course that's going to happen. Like many shows the first couple seasons are never the best because the actors are just developing the characters. Later on, they become somewhat of an identity of their own and take shape. If you're killing off characters and introduce new ones, it's like cutting off a leg.

(3) It's an off shoot. And I'm not saying off shoots do not succeed because they do. It just means that you have to work even harder to make it a success. And at first they were doing a really good job. But because of certain outside pressures, it really crumbled underneath them. And I hate to see it happen, but it has. Like I said, it has a lot of potential.
Michael Merritt
QUOTE (Luke @ Aug 25 2008, 05:09 PM) *
(3) It's an off shoot. And I'm not saying off shoots do not succeed because they do. It just means that you have to work even harder to make it a success. And at first they were doing a really good job. But because of certain outside pressures, it really crumbled underneath them. And I hate to see it happen, but it has. Like I said, it has a lot of potential.

This is a fear of mine for Universe. After two rather successful series, TPTB will have to work even harder to make the 3rd a success.

Also, about SG-1. Lets not forget that at one time, it too was on the chopping block at Showtime until Sci-Fi picked it up after Season 5. Then, for two successive seasons, 7 and 8, it was also supposed to end. I'm happy it didn't, though. original.gif

My issue with Atlantis now that I think about is that there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of story progression, at least not yet. At this time in SG-1, the structure of the system lords was being destabilized by Anubis. He wouldn't take ultimate control for another couple seasons, but this is when the story started to change for them.

I'm just wondering if the Michael vs. Wraith story would have been the same kind of game changer.
Jaggi
yea they kind of dropped the ball from what the original story was which was to explore the pegasus galaxy, if anyone has seen the ep where weir came back she said there are ALOT of other planets and civilisations that are successfully fighting off the wraith. For me this story line HAD huge potential to go back to the core of the story and meet new races and people and put a entire twist on things. They are forgetting that the great atlantians couldn't destroy the wraith after yrs and yrs of fighting so the struggle should be made alot more harder than it currently is (maybe have 100,000 wraith wake from hibernation or summit). Its sad to see it die and i hope the excite us with the remaining of the season and the film so it goes out on a bang.
Stephen
QUOTE (Jaggi @ Aug 26 2008, 10:25 AM) *
For me this story line HAD huge potential to go back to the core of the story and meet new races and people and put a entire twist on things.


Wait for the mid season, I have a feeling that that part will be included in the "previously on...." section wink.gif First contact and The Lost Tribe.

Daniel Jackson is on Atlantis and activates a beacon which alerts a group of "mysterious aliens" to their location, the mid season is suppose to be introducing a new major enemy. Quite frankly that guy is bad luck wink.gif

Only 2 weeks between the mid season episodes this year it seems, guess they changed it because I'm sure Sanctuary was suppose to show between the midseason. Final episode is on boxing day, although I don't think that means anything in the States?
Jaggi
yea i heard about that, tbh i don't think boxing day means anything in the UK anymore tongue.gif.
Stephen
QUOTE (Jaggi @ Aug 26 2008, 11:33 AM) *
tbh i don't think boxing day means anything in the UK anymore tongue.gif.


It means a day off work wink.gif
Jaggi
QUOTE (Stephen @ Aug 26 2008, 12:25 PM) *
It means a day off work wink.gif


apart from that biggrin.gif
getstuff4less
The younger audience thing has me worried. I mean it's already rated TV-PG. What do they want to rate Universe? TV-G... rolleyes.gif
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