killswitch☺
Aug 25 2008, 08:58 PM
I think when the IPS team is done and well rested with IPB3, they should update the design of resources.invisionpower.com to be more user friendly and easier to navigate. I know you would like to keep it ran on nexus(witch is amazing!). But what if you show us also how nexus can be modded to fit any kind of site, like a resources site perfectly. I think with the new hooks and products system im hearing about with IPB3 this would be very useful.
bfarber
Aug 25 2008, 09:08 PM
What exactly do you want updated? What's not user friendly?
killswitch☺
Aug 26 2008, 12:07 AM
The design is kinda ugly, and the mods should be the first priority, it should just a bit more simpler. I would hate to compare other forum companies, but a good idea is instead of having "downloads" as a tab in the main navigation, have Mods and skins. define it better, member system, homepage, a lot it all just need a face lift. maybe add forums to it. so its more independent. Keep it all in one site.
Jυra
Aug 26 2008, 02:43 AM
I do remember being very confused and lost various times when visiting the IPS site.
bfarber
Aug 26 2008, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 25 2008, 08:07 PM)

The design is kinda ugly, and the mods should be the first priority, it should just a bit more simpler. I would hate to compare other forum companies, but a good idea is instead of having "downloads" as a tab in the main navigation, have Mods and skins. define it better, member system, homepage, a lot it all just need a face lift. maybe add forums to it. so its more independent. Keep it all in one site.
We previously had the forums/resources combined and that has since been changed so that the forums here and the resources are there. Unfortunately I don't see that changing back anytime in the immediate future.
The problem we ran into is that the vast majority of our customers just needed to ask a few simple questions, and wanted to use peer-to-peer avenues to ask those questions. When we then had to direct them offsite it got confusing for them - they have no need for mods and other such things, they just wanted to ask a question. So we moved the forums here to facilitate that and make it easier for newbies who need just a place to discuss IP.Board.
It would be trivial to add separate links for mods and skins, in all reality, however keep in mind that isn't all the site offers. You would be surprised, but I'd estimate that maybe 20% or less of our customers use modifications. Of those that do, probably 20% of them simply purchase custom services from someone, rather than use pre-built modifications. Sure the modding community is vocal, and people do use modifications, but it's not nearly as "big" as some might think. We want to highlight articles that help you run your community and manage your forums too, without focusing entirely on modifications.
killswitch☺
Aug 26 2008, 07:59 PM
Well, don't ignore the customers that are more interactive with IPS and enjoy skins and mods. IP Beyond was good. just needed updates, but you got rid of it altogether and in place a crippled site. I'm confused on why you cant deliver what most people expect from such a large forum company.
You can tell what what you did, but its not helping most of us want a separate site like vB.org, for the best experience.
Μichael
Aug 27 2008, 03:01 PM
How are you arriving at the conclusion that "most" people feel the way you do? Wouldn't we have a whole lot more topics about this if that was the case?
Morrigan
Aug 27 2008, 03:06 PM
The only change I would like is a Link in the nav bar to the Resources site.

But I like the thing on a whole.
Μichael
Aug 27 2008, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (TheMorrigan @ Aug 27 2008, 11:06 AM)

The only change I would like is a Link in the nav bar to the Resources site.

But I like the thing on a whole.

I agree, a link on the nav bar would help
Lındsey
Aug 27 2008, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Μichael @ Aug 27 2008, 11:06 AM)

I agree, a link on the nav bar would help

I also agree. As for the layout of the resource site, it looks fine with me.
How could they improve the current layout?
ΑndyF
Aug 27 2008, 03:11 PM
QUOTE (TheMorrigan @ Aug 27 2008, 04:06 PM)

The only change I would like is a Link in the nav bar to the Resources site.

But I like the thing on a whole.

QUOTE (Μichael @ Aug 27 2008, 04:06 PM)

I agree, a link on the nav bar would help

QUOTE (Lindsey. @ Aug 27 2008, 04:08 PM)

I also agree.
Agree
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 06:34 PM
Jesus......
I guess its just the fact that I'm always talking to high end designers with an actually seance of website layout and design that would take one look at the site and say "Why would a company like IPS make something like this?"
QUOTE
How are you arriving at the conclusion that "most" people feel the way you do?
I talk to lots of people that own both, first conclusion is IPB has no mods from them, second is "Where the F*ck do I even find mods for IPB"
Alεx
Aug 28 2008, 06:36 PM
But it seems the majority of people like the design
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 06:42 PM
Really..... three IPB customers?
I'm surprised me help suggestion turned into a lot of people that never seen better and more designs agreeing that this one needs NO upgrade. But still we shale ponder in that one thread why "99% admins think that vB is better". Like none of you ever went to vB.org and felt every thing was easy to find, the mods all had well descriptions, and pictures, go to this resource site and compare.
I'm at least hoping that some IPS management member looks at this. Because any one with high professionalism in web and design would agree. And hooks and products will make a big difference. Making a lot more people able to make mods for IPB and more easily to make mods. So I think they should plan to have it as neat, organized as possible. the colors they chose are definitely not the best, before you say any one contact a designer before bashing me or actually have some real knowledge of web design.
Santa Garcia
Aug 28 2008, 06:42 PM

Some people in this topic think they know everything...
@topic
I liked IPSBeyond, but really don't care about the merge since I wasn't active on the other forum too. I am happy here, and I just find the resources just to be a place to download skins, and mods. Not really a community itself, which is probably what they wanted.
Coca-Cola
Aug 28 2008, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 28 2008, 06:42 PM)

Because any one with high professionalism in web and design would agree.
----
I believe that Rikki made the resource site theme
Μichael
Aug 28 2008, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 28 2008, 02:34 PM)

I talk to lots of people that own both, first conclusion is IPB has no mods from them, second is "Where the F*ck do I even find mods for IPB"
You should probably get those people to give IPS feedback then, because I haven't seen very much of it posted here.
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 06:58 PM
Not all License holders post here

If you don't want the site to be updated, then your own problem. But the real truth here is if you actually have knowledge of this you know exactly what I mean and how to make it more user friendly for your customer's to easily navigate, you see. sometimes its not all about the customers that just type in a thread to pick a battle. Wait till oliver gets on (ManHa, owner of IPBcustomize.com, another high end designer. He will tell you the same thing. You see. the designers I'm talking about aren't the ones that cost $100 - $300 a template
Μichael
Aug 28 2008, 07:11 PM
Well, it's not my decision to make one way or another. All I can speak of is my own experience with what feedback I do hear, same as you, and I would hardly say the feedback I have heard gives me any evidence what "most" people want to see changed. The feedback I personally have seen says that the Resources site is, for the most part, very helpful. As has been pointed out here, visibility on this site could be improved, and people have had other specific suggestions that had merit to them. But you're the first person I've seen that refers to it as "crippled".
I don't understand your last sentence at all, what does how much someone charges for a skin have to do with this discussion? Are you suggesting that the Resources site should only be listening to the high end designers? Seems contrary to the whole 'pleasing most people' thing you've talked about.
I'm not meaning to be argumentative or annoying, I just don't think that you have the experience to say that the way you feel is the way "most" people feel about the site.
Brandon D
Aug 28 2008, 07:14 PM
Anyone with any sort of brain can navigate IPS Resources just fine. The layout meets the needs of the site quite well: it delivers the content effectively, cutting the fluff.
Killswitch, your posts bring me great entertainment.
Santa Garcia
Aug 28 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Μichael @ Aug 28 2008, 03:11 PM)

Well, it's not my decision to make one way or another. All I can speak of is my own experience with what feedback I do hear, same as you, and I would hardly say the feedback I have heard gives me any evidence what "most" people want to see changed. The feedback I personally have seen says that the Resources site is, for the most part, very helpful. As has been pointed out here, visibility on this site could be improved, and people have had other specific suggestions that had merit to them. But you're the first person I've seen that refers to it as "crippled".
I don't understand your last sentence at all, what does how much someone charges for a skin have to do with this discussion? Are you suggesting that the Resources site should only be listening to the high end designers? Seems contrary to the whole 'pleasing most people' thing you've talked about.
I'm not meaning to be argumentative or annoying, I just don't think that you have the experience to say that the way you feel is the way "most" people feel about the site.
Indeed, it seems that just because his "buddy" Oliver agrees with him that it means it should be changed because every high quality web developer thinks its poor and needs change! And also its not based on knowledge killswitch but opinion. You don't need a high quality layout to do its job

. Many people I have found also have no problems with the Resources site.
Coca-Cola
Aug 28 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Retaliation.SG @ Aug 28 2008, 08:14 PM)

Killswitch, your posts bring me great entertainment.
Any more examples?
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 07:24 PM
It seems like I'm talking to people that don't even know how to install IPB oO
and BGarcia, i was trying to be nice to you, now you can go screw your 64 year old immature self again.
Learn what your talking about before posting. you all waste every ones time. I wasn't looking for people that barely know how to install IPB to comment.
Coca-Cola
Aug 28 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 28 2008, 07:24 PM)

It seems like I'm talking to people that don't even know how to install IPB oO
Do you have a problem with us ? Michael sure knows how to install..
How old are you?
Brandon D
Aug 28 2008, 07:26 PM
Just look for any of his posts where people disagree with him
This is the typical formula of his posts:
1. Make suggestion
2. Claim everyone who disagreed with his suggestion is wrong because he is a 'web developer', thus knows all
3. Call person A who still disagrees a 14yr old idiot
We should all heed his words because he knows all. We should know better.
</sarcasm>
He'd be banned from my community by now. Don't get me wrong, it's funny reading his stuff on a forum I don't represent, but I nor my members would put up with the crap that comes out of his mouth
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 07:28 PM
*sigh* naw, it really feels like im talking to 14 year olds.
Coca-Cola
Aug 28 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 28 2008, 07:28 PM)

*sigh* naw, it really feels like im talking to 14 year olds.
Oh sh*t the f*ck up.
Have a good day my friend
killswitch☺
Aug 28 2008, 07:31 PM
8 posts, and you are immature. Bashing a suggestion because you don't get it.
That sucks to be you my friend.
Santa Garcia
Aug 28 2008, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (killswitch911 @ Aug 28 2008, 03:24 PM)

It seems like I'm talking to people that don't even know how to install IPB oO
and BGarcia, i was trying to be nice to you, now you can go screw your 64 year old immature self again.
Learn what your talking about before posting. you all waste every ones time. I wasn't looking for people that barely know how to install IPB to comment.
Are you kidding me ?!
I worked with IPB for years, and I work for a company that IPS refers people for custom IPB services!
And please look up the word immature, and hypocrisy.
Coca-Cola
Aug 28 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (BGarcia @ Aug 28 2008, 08:32 PM)

I worked with IPB for years, and I work for a company that IPS refers people for custom IPB services!
Now for me to hear that, that means the company he works for is well known.
We need .Will
bfarber
Aug 28 2008, 07:37 PM
Ok....so....I think this topic has gone as far as it's going to at this time. Everyone chill out before attacking each other again please.
Rikki
Aug 28 2008, 07:37 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, we'll bear it in mind. Locking since this has decended into chaos.
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